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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:14 am    Post subject: Cathars Reply with quote

Did the Cathars possess documents that if made public today would show that Jesus had written down his teachings?

What if those documents were contradictory to what the Gospels contain?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was listening to a radio show about just this topic recently. The main topic was the Ark of the covenant.

I'll see if i can find the info
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Followed this here from the Magick thread after The Hooded Man's reference to it.

The Cathar's are an interesting sect.
The concept of secret documents would certainly change the official script.

Did, or indeed, do, any such documents exist?

The Vatican would be a good place to start digging, if not the only place Wink

..just don't mention the inquisition, or the crusades, or ask to check their books, especially their financial ones Shocked Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard that the Cathars and the templars are somehow connected.

THat being said this may interest you:

The history of the Knights Templars : the temple church, and the temple (1842)

Creator Addison, C. G. (Charles Greenstreet), d. 1866
Publisher London : Longman, Brown, Green and Longmans
Date 1842

(I prefer reading the flip books)
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fresca wrote:
I have heard that the Cathars and the templars are somehow connected.

THat being said this may interest you:

The history of the Knights Templars : the temple church, and the temple (1842)

Creator Addison, C. G. (Charles Greenstreet), d. 1866
Publisher London : Longman, Brown, Green and Longmans
Date 1842

(I prefer reading the flip books)


The origins and history of the various Templar societies from all the old world countries, and also their descendants and myriad spin off groups, is one of my areas of research Fresca.
Unless one fully understands that whole area, the present day looks like it just somehow happened by chance and coincidence..
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HEre is an interesting(to me) story about Cathar history that I was reviously unaware of
http://cathars.philosophi.org/history.htm#slavs

In my time in the Orthodox Church I don't recal any mention ever of the Cathars so I don't have a real reference to the validity. However, one can spend time in other branches of Christianity and never hear about them as well Smile... I just never heard of the grail going to russia... ever, from any source
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you treat "The Grail" as knowledge, which is my own personal view of the grail myth, then there is a great deal of validity in the plethora of ideas that at one time or another it made its way to all corners of the old world.

That's just my personal view on it, but its a view which has taken me a lot of research to arrive at.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

atim wrote:
If you treat "The Grail" as knowledge, which is my own personal view of the grail myth, then there is a great deal of validity in the plethora of ideas that at one time or another it made its way to all corners of the old world.

That's just my personal view on it, but its a view which has taken me a lot of research to arrive at.


Have you seen the video posted about with links on what the grail might also be?

The video producers state they believe the Grail to be a "mushroom" or mushrooms containing various substances.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you know... if you go with the mushroom hypothesis... it would make some sense in E.Europe

Going out and picking mushooms in the woods is a very common tradition to this day. Besides the hallucinogenic properties... the nutrition content of edible wild mushrooms is quite significant. Another example, many vegetarians use mushrooms as a meat substitute... and in a country where meat is not always available. hmm in retrospect, that video did make a good case for it... adding how significant mushrooms are in E.Europe.... ok i can see it
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheHoodedMan wrote:

Have you seen the video posted about with links on what the grail might also be?

The video producers state they believe the Grail to be a "mushroom" or mushrooms containing various substances. TFR


Funnily enough, I had read a lot on that sacred mushroom/key to knowledge stuff a few years ago. I think its a very valid hypothesis when you consider all the shamanistic traditions the world over.
Plus...the "manna" was I believe magick mushrooms, there is a wealth of stuuf written about this, and a few videos as well(sorry, cant remember any links), the Jewish high priests also wear a distinct mushroom shaped headdress..

So it all ties in nicely with the Grail being the attainment of hidden knowledge, and the mushroom was one of the keys to unlock, or gain entry to, that universal data stream.
The Egyptian ankh, it could be argued was also a mushroom, if one considers the shape of it, and also the fact that the kings and queens of ancient Egypt were depicted being fed the ankh, by having it held up to their lips, although the drug of choice in Egypt was something entirely different, but it was also blueish in colour, as are some of the magick mushies..

I haven't tried any magick mushies for a few years, there are so many different varieties and forms..
I'm open to offers though Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lawrence Gardiner has been putting forth the "ORMUS" / monatomic gold hypothesis

here is the 1st 1/2 of his talk on the Ark and Monatomic gold
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5peRJvcJf8

It is another hypothesis... but it does start to lead you to think about why gold has always been so valuable.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good call Fresca Smile

Gardiners website is http://www.graal.co.uk/

another related one is:
http://www.halexandria.org/home.htm


The american farmer/part-time scientist who kinda accidentally stumbled upon this idea is fascinating(i've forgotten his name Embarassed , but there may be some links on those weg sites)...anyway, the whole idea of levitating huge stones etc using various "M" elements is a reality.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far the biggest critisism I've seen of gardiner's work is that he is an "Illuminatus" amd/or "Reptilian"

THat being said... until i see something a little more thoguht out than that, i consider his theory "in play"
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol Fresca...although I posted those links, I wouldn't trust gardiner himself, as far as I could throw him Laughing , he's just jumped on the bandwagon more vocally than most others researching this whole area.

There is a lot of info on Gardiner, and his Illuminati tie-ins, interestingly, he's never repudiated any of them Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fresca wrote:
Lawrence Gardiner has been putting forth the "ORMUS" / monatomic gold hypothesis

here is the 1st 1/2 of his talk on the Ark and Monatomic gold
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5peRJvcJf8

It is another hypothesis... but it does start to lead you to think about why gold has always been so valuable.


I was thinking the same thing. I liked his take on it. Bread cakes mixed with the mufkut.

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