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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:29 am    Post subject: Bill Schnoebelen Part 1 Reply with quote

Witchvox Article on Bill Schnoblen (Part 1)


http://www.witchvox.com/va/dt_va.html?a=cabc&c=whs&id=4355


Take the time to read this so you will familiarize yourself at the deceit being used to legitimize some of the methods used by Fundamentalist/Evangelicals to indoctrinate the public so their agenda can be used to violate the 1st Amendment Rights of non mainstream religions.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:31 am    Post subject: Bill Schnoebelen [2] Reply with quote

Witchvox Article on Bill Schnoebelen [2]



http://www.witchvox.com/va/dt_va.html?a=cabc&c=whs&id=4356



Take the time to read this so you will familiarize yourself at the deceit being used to legitimize some of the methods used by Fundamentalist/Evangelicals to indoctrinate the public so their agenda can be used to violate the 1st Amendment Rights of non mainstream religions.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

here's a basic timeline of his life.... the timeline seems impossible

http://www.answers.com/topic/william-schnoebelen

Interview with an Ex-Vampire part 1 of 9
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7672003660947890622&q=bill+schnoebelen&hl=en

... just curious... ex-vampire ?????... and check out the tie !!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the guy is a deluded kook, who is now playing to his new end-times evangelical audience.
"let he who is without brains throw the first kook" Laughing

He does have some fairly accurate time-lines with regards to the formations/roots of various ancient mystic religions, orders, and spin-off cults etc, but even some of these are inaccurate, but apart from that, he's just full of BS.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

atim wrote:
Yes, the guy is a deluded kook, who is now playing to his new end-times evangelical audience.
"let he who is without brains throw the first kook" Laughing

He does have some fairly accurate time-lines with regards to the formations/roots of various ancient mystic religions, orders, and spin-off cults etc, but even some of these are inaccurate, but apart from that, he's just full of BS.


He says he is full of the Holy Spirit.

I was wondering he claims to be a 9th degree OTO ex-member but doesn't ever say where he took initiation or what OTO group he was affiliated.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

atim wrote:
"let he who is without brains throw the first kook" Laughing


AHAHAHA !!!! do you ahve a copyright on that i'm gonna want to use it in the future
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fresca wrote:

AHAHAHA !!!! do you ahve a copyright on that i'm gonna want to use it in the future


LOL...humour should never be copyrighted, even lame attempts at it like mine Embarassed
I think humour is the best thing about us humans...where would we be without it?...I think its what those pesky Aliens are really after - our funny bones! Shocked

TheHoodedMan wrote:

He says he is full of the Holy Spirit.

I was wondering he claims to be a 9th degree OTO ex-member but doesn't ever say where he took initiation or what OTO group he was affiliated.
TFR


Yes, he's full of BS & HS...(think Horse with that "H")

As to your other valid point..
I think he got a lot of his qualifications from the back of a cereal packet..lol
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think most if not all of the people doing the speaking of alternative groups have little to no personal experience to base their positions upon.

The authors who write about similar subjects are in the same boat.

The majority of readers have even less knowledge and will take at face value whatever the authors say and then consider it fact.

I have offered to speak about it to G.O.D. Squad Podcasters but none of them will allow it and that tells me they don't want the truth as it will show what was done and basically expose the authors and their efforts are in fact baseless.

I even invite them to discuss it with me on my Podcast and they refuse, but continue to spread their ideas on other venues. They are never asked to prove what they say is true instead people just go along with it without examining even the source material that the author and speakers claim it came from. If they did they would find enough proof to set aside the authors and speakers by themselves without even hearing from an experienced person.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I agree entirely with The Hooded Man.

Stupidity is in the eyes and ears of the beholders..

What does worry me greatly about this whole area, is the sheer number of right wing Fundi's in America, and the fundi's are only the tip of a much larger christian based, end-times worshipping pyramid. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

atim wrote:
Yes I agree entirely with The Hooded Man.

Stupidity is in the eyes and ears of the beholders..

What does worry me greatly about this whole area, is the sheer number of right wing Fundi's in America, and the fundi's are only the tip of a much larger christian based, end-times worshipping pyramid. Rolling Eyes


Let's contrast this with the large number of Christians who don't follow G.O.D. Squad reasoning, they are singled out by them and called wrong.

So unless you follow and [fall in line] with the thinking you are considered to be ungodly. Who appointed the G.O.D. Squad to be the arbiters of what is correct interpretation of the Bible. Next look at the many versions of the Bible that are read with comparison you find the OT is different from the original but it doesn't seem to matter that Jesus would have read that to base his ministry on. In fact one story that is promulgated is that Jesus was found in a Synagogue discussing the Rabbis and telling them where he felt they had misinterpreted the Scripture.

So if it was good enough for Jesus why do you need to modify the original and then state the new version is the "infallible" word of God? In fact every Bible is said to be the "infallible" word of God, how can so many variations be "infallible"? Take it a step further, since Jesus repudiated the "old laws" why even refer to them any longer?

That is ignored isn't it and the modified versions are cited more often than the NT in some cases especially when attacking non mainstream practices.

The same method used by G.O.D. Squad members can be applied to them and when it is they either drop the subject outright or change the discussion and engage in personal attacks against the person who raised the issue.

Duality or double minded is often used and they fail to recognized and even refuse to acknowledge that they very basis of Christianity rests upon a duality of good and evil, God and Satan!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I find most amusing is that the very people Jesus denounced more than any others were the Priestly classes. Why ? because they were misleading and teaching falsehoods to the people (in essence... I'm not pulling out scripture for this but can if you want).

The irony is that these people today are wantiing to bring about Christ's return to earth... and are actively preaching it.

I find thid for lack of a better word... "disingenuous"

I can't help but wonder... do these people really want Jesus to return ?

Personally, I think not.. I think they either Fear it or don't believe it. IMO, most dont believe what they themselves promote as 'truth'... I think what they really want is something else entirely... control
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is refreshing to discuss this with reasoned and open minded people.

What I find most amusing of all is this:
Which of the GOD squad members could throw the first stone Question

and yet, they tell everyone else on the planet that they are all blind and damned as sinners.

And still the GOD squad members expect their sorry asses to be "raptured up" as THE chosen flock of God..you couldn't make this stuff up Laughing

All these so called "chosen people" are the cause of ALL the troubles on this planet, whether they reside in America or in Israel, the "chosen ones" view the rest of humanity as nothing more than lower forms of life.

Hallelujah, and praise the Armageddon Rolling Eyes

I have no time for fools, and will fight them and shame them at every turn, lets face it, its not even that difficult, they are damned by their very own words, deeds, actions, and sacred scriptures..the Talmud is an absolute scream..., to mention but one, and that is what the real Jewish scholars, and leading rabbi's study (religiously) their whole lives.
The bible?, that's just something to keep the christians both perpetually confused by, and happy with. As an ex-catholic, it should be pointed out to anyone who perhaps does not know, that the OLD TESTAMENT never gets a mention in the catholic church, even the mass, has but one, usually very short "letter from X to Y" within it, the whole catholic church rests on the NEW TESTAMENT.

and the rest of us are supposed to be the lower forms of life Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

atim wrote:
It is refreshing to discuss this with reasoned and open minded people.


but the 'open minded" need to be careful, lest one becomes "closed minded" in one's open mindedness.

atim wrote:

As an ex-catholic, it should be pointed out to anyone who perhaps does not know, that the OLD TESTAMENT never gets a mention in the catholic church, even the mass, has but one, usually very short "letter from X to Y" within it, the whole catholic church rests on the NEW TESTAMENT.

and the rest of us are supposed to be the lower forms of life Shocked


the NT/OT debate has been adressed on this board... will probably continue to be so. It's addressed in the dominionism thread under religion and somewhere else in Magick
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Fresca, I remain firmly open minded to all that has not been firmly damned by its doctrine, and irrefutable facts, however unpalatable they may be to those who would defend them Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although I AM closed minded on certain subjects, I do however remain fully open palmed.., there is a subtle difference.
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