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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:07 pm    Post subject: Anyone read this Book? Reply with quote

Blood on the Altar by Craig Heimbichner?

I haven't been able to obtain a copy of it yet. Every time I have ordered it it is not in stock. I next tried to buy a used copy and it took months to get my credit card charges credited back.

Next I asked a used book seller if I could get it COD and they won't so it.

Anyone want to sell or better still loan me a copy to read and review.

TFR
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unholy Alliance by Peter Lavenda was a book I read and took detailed notes on.

Whenever he brought up Crowley and/or the OTO and made some assumption he wound up proving that it wasn't true and that the misconceptions were unfounded.

Kinda funny really and he is another author I would love to interview.

So far he hasn't agreed to appear.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 3:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone read this Book? Reply with quote

TheHoodedMan wrote:
Blood on the Altar by Craig Heimbichner?

I haven't been able to obtain a copy of it yet. Every time I have ordered it it is not in stock. I next tried to buy a used copy and it took months to get my credit card charges credited back.

Next I asked a used book seller if I could get it COD and they won't so it.

Anyone want to sell or better still loan me a copy to read and review.

TFR


Well it looks like I may finally get a copy of my own. Every time I think it is going to happen, I find it is either out of stock, unavailable or some other strange reason to why the seller didn't have it. But this time I found a seller and it is allegedly being shipped and expected to arrive any day now.

That will allow me a chance to carefully go through the book and outline what the author has done.

I took a similar approach to Peter Lavenda's book -
"Unholy Alliance".

Since I finally received an email (back)from the author, I am waiting to find out if he is willing to be interviewed by me.

I was told my original email was not received at the only contact point I could find that being his publisher. I know I sent it, but Mr. Hoffman said he couldn't find it. Well not a large problem, just a delay in reaching hm.

Heimbichner has a busy schedule and since I am not the usual type of host he has to deal with may have reservations beside scheduling problems in appearing. I will let you know what the outcome is. It would be very interesting episode to say the least.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The copy of BLOOD on the ALTAR finally arrived.

I started to take notes like I had done with Peter Lavenda's book UNHOLY ALLIANCE

After reading through the first 30 pages I am now laughing so hard I am having difficulty in justifying the need.

Craig Heimbichner has shown in less than 20 pages his intense hatred of Crowley, Jews, Muslims and his profound respect of Nazi propaganda.

He is non-stop in his use of out of context quotes, although it could be said that he did take some from possible Crowley sources, he interprets them inaccurately. He draws conclusions and when he can't find any proof to support his theory, invents connections that never existed at all.

I guess I should take the time to note his mistakes, but it is taking longer to list is errors than it does to read through the nonsense in the first place.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finished reading the book Blood on the Altar

After wading through the conclusions and "quotes", who the author states are accurate, but never tells listeners and readers are taken out of context, I will need a bit of time to review the source material before I can fully comment as to the accuracy of those quotes.

That aside, Heimbichner seems to place Michael Hoffman high on a pedestal and worship at his feet throughout the book. His heroes are the same of every fascist and neo-nazi goose stepping along in the haze of conditioned Fundamentalism and Evangelical diatribe.

He waited until the last page to try to throw off the association of fascism and Nazi propaganda being the real underlying motivations for the book, but he failed.

The publishers of this "work" calls itself Revisionist History and Alternative History, (Independent History & Research) which was exposed in many trials as nothing more than a veiled attempt at continuing the Fascist doctrines made popular by Hitler and his ilk. The author doesn't miss a beat to thump his version of religion and to convince innocent Christians that it is perfectly acceptable to hate.

Well, Mr. Heimbichner doesn't convince me to hate, nor should you fall under his spell either. He makes enormous jumps to reach conclusions that only take review of the material he cites to show how wrong he is.

If you have need of a good number of laughs or boredom is present then read it, just remember that it is just simply repackaged hate written to confuse the reader since most won't take the time to investigate the subject any further, because if you did you would realize that you could have saved the money you spent and bought something worthwhile, like toilet paper as it has a use to rid you of the waste material contained within this book after digesting it!

I have offered to interview Craig Heimbichner on my Podcast, I seriously doubt he would agree to do it after reading this post mortem of his magnum opus!

People will not foster and spread hatred any longer, but will refuse to accept the message of it no matter how carefully hidden from those who do. I for one have exposed it when I find it. This is yet a poorly concealed example at pushing hatred of Blacks, Jews, Catholics, Christians, Masons, Wiccans, OTO, Thelemites (regardless of affiliation), Free Speech, T.V., Free thinkers, Homosexuals, Lesbians, Transvestites, and anyone else who believes in a deity, judged unacceptable by Heimbichner and his pathetic group of frustrated powerless Nazi sympathizers.

Crowley and the multiple OTO groups he writes about are blamed for everything but invention of the wheel! From Vatican II to Homosexuality. He constantly infers and implies pedophilia on the living and accuses the dead of committing it and far worse things if that is possible. Yet throughout the book he never gives any credible evidence to prove these allegations. Even the quotes used are twisted by his illogical reasoning, which sticks out like a person trying to force a square peg in a round hole.

Insulting the intelligence of a reader and expecting them to ignore how ridiculous his arguments are, he continues to pursue the subject regardless of his inability to see he is supporting the exact opposite in his book. He does a better job showing how well the system works instead of providing any alternatives to why it doesn't!

He should focus on what he really knows about, that being the Third Reich and the downfall of all who follow it's doctrine.

So, Mr. Heimbichner, I finished the book care to discuss it with me and risk further exposure or continue to avoid me and hope no one notices?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking about Heimbichner's statements where he says the OTO and high level Masons are connected and that along with others who make similar claims that the same rituals are performed by both.

Here is a problem, if the Masons are doing the same rituals as the OTO then why the need for separate groups? Why don't the Masons just do the same things at their Lodges and avoid the need to go to a different place?

If the OTO and Masons are the same then why the disclaimer on the USGL website and the position of the Masons toward those in the OTO?

It also is not explained that the high level Masons that are alleged to be involved should be able to do all this stuff at their own Lodges, so if it is the same initiations and ceremonies then an OTO member should not need to do anything more than just show up to a regular Masonic Lodge to be allowed into everything after all they are considered advanced Masons and would have to undergo everything the regular Masons up to 32nd Degree and then build upon that in order to move up the ladder in the OTO.

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